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Monday, May 11, 2009

Genome mappers Crick and Watson: Was Crick the brains of the team?

Re Nobel Prize-winning genome mapper James Watson (who, with Francis Crick, developed the double helix model) A friend who reads the Scientific American blog (February 26, 2009), wrote recently to tell me that,
At a panel discussion at the New York Academy of Sciences, Watson let it all hang out, according to a post at Scientific American. While he said some good things, he veered toward the all-too-familiar barbs. According to Watson, young scientists should not be encouraged to be nice. "Christian values don't make any sense," he said, adding that young people should be selfish in their pursuit of science in order to beat out the competition. He also chimed in with his views on science teachers today: "Part of the problem is too many of our teachers are dumb"he said.
What he said, specifically (or so we are told) was

He noted that a lack of money in the sciences meant that people had to be nice to each other, because they need to grovel for the limited research dollars. And, according to Watson, there's nothing worse than forcing young, ambitious scientists to be nice. "Christian values don't make any sense," he said, explaining that young people should be selfish and aim for success.

That's one reason he likes Russians, he said, like biologist Andrey Pisarev, and would hire them in a heartbeat – presumably because they are more worried about surviving than about being nice.

Pisarev must feel suitably honoured, I suppose.

I am sympathetic to the view of other friends who say that Crick, not Watson, was the brains of that operation. Crick had some astonishing views, to be sure (such as, "you are nothing but a pack of neurons") . But compare that to Watson opining that black employees are inferior to white employees.

The obvious question is, why bother with science achievements, if that's how you think?

Any white yokel can mumble that under his breath, after being let go for noonday drunkenness on the work site. Presumably, a black yokel, fired for similar reasons, would mumble the opposite - and to what purpose?

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Thursday, February 14, 2008

James Watson: Francis Collins’ book is trash

At Life in Research blog, we learn that double helix discoverer James Watson thinks that genome mapper Francis Collins’ book, The Language of God is trash

I will instead tell you about what Dr. Watson thinks of science and religion, and Dawkins and Collins. This came up during the Q&A session.

I asked Dr. Watson: “What do you think of the spat between Francis Collins and Richard Dawkins…” I was going to finish off by asking, “…and whose side would you take, if you have to take one side?”

He cut me off, “Dawkins is fun. I talk with him. Dawkins is sometimes…” and he let out a typical giggle. “He is a good friend”.

I was determined to get a complete answer. I asked, “What do you think of Collins…”

“Collins’ book is trash”, he interjected.

With a giggle he continued, “and he has rejected my grants too”. To which the audience laughed heartily. “But really, he talks about miracles! And you can not separate religion and science in current situation, what with issues like stem cells.. Religion is good for people whose life is hell, and need an afterlife. My life is great, I get chocolate and ice-cream in this life, I don’t need to look for an afterlife… I don’t see civility being lost as a result of giving up God”.


As I have said elsewhere I have a somewhat ambivalent relationship with Collins’s The Language of God. I consider it poorly argued, but likely to go over well with a certain sort of popular audience.

I have recommended it to popular audiences because
Basically, if you have some mouthy teen shouting that he won’t go to church any more because he has discovered polynomials (and thinks you don’t know any algebra at all) - and because there is no God, science rules, and therefore he is going to go out and get his thingummy pierced - Collins is a good choice.

Collins could talk that kid out of doing something stupid, and that’s great! - but it doesn’t mean he understands major cultural issues for adults.

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Monday, October 22, 2007

Watson’s descent down Mt. Improbable: A summary

John West of the Discovery Institute has a long and interesting post on the historical role of Watson’s research lab in promoting eugenics: (Note: Go here and here for previous stories on eminent geneticist Watson’s descent into political correctness hell.)
Eminent evolutionist James Watson, winner of the Nobel Prize for co-discovering the structure of DNA, is sparking controversy in Great Britain for suggesting that blacks are inferior to whites due to evolution. But there is nothing particularly extraordinary about Watson's views. As I document in chapter 7 of my forthcoming book , there is a long history of evolutionists using Darwinism to justify racism—including Darwin himself.

Watson is past director and current Chancellor of the prestigious biological research lab at Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island. Ironically, that lab has deep connections to Darwinian racism of years gone by. Early in the twentieth century it was the headquarters for one of the most virulent American eugenics groups, the Eugenics Record Office, which promoted forced sterilization and opposed immigration to America by ethnic groups considered lower on the evolutionary scale than Anglo-Saxon whites. Back then the lab was directed by Harvard-trained geneticist Charles Davenport. A member of the National Academy of Sciences, Davenport held views about blacks and evolution hauntingly similar to Watson's.

The current flap started with a profile of Watson in the Sunday Times in England, where Watson's views were described thus:
He says that he is “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”, and I know that this “hot potato” is going to be difficult to address. His hope is that everyone is equal, but he counters that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”. He says that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because “there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level”. He writes that “there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so”.

Watson's comments are inspiring a furor in England, where he has just arrived for a speaking tour.


I keep having to pinch myself to remind myself that many educated, intelligent people actually don’t know about the role Darwin’s theory has played, almost from its inception in promoting eugenics and upholding racism.

All the more strange is the fact that there should be no surprise about why. Essentially, the view of human history that Darwin outlined made racism appear reasonable to his contemporaries, just as it does to Watson today. According to Darwin, humans were not planned, they just happened. The smart ones survived.

And mark what follows: Just as ravens are, generally speaking, smarter than pigeons, so one race of humans could be, generally speaking, smarter than another. And - this is the payload - in the materialist context that Darwin and his fellows accepted (and Watson accepts today) relative intelligence is an indicator of value. In other words, the consequence of making humans out to be “just another animal species” is that racism becomes a reasonable, defensible view for which evidence can be accumulated - evidence on which judgments of value can be made.

As I have written elsewhere, to prevent the very considerable social unrest that a materialist system must generate, the materialist makes and enforces thousands of political correctness rules against telling the truth, precisely to avoid raising the spectre of such summary value judgements. Hence the fall of ex-Harvard prez Larry Summers for saying only what everyone knows: That more men than women are naturally interested in math and hard sciences. Even if Summers were wrong, the question is at least debatable. But he isn’t wrong, just politically incorrect.

Seek and Find draws my attention to this article in American Thinker on the Watson affair, noting more or less the same thing:
The Truth is that the outrage here isn't Dr. Watson's remarks; they're either true or not. What's outrageous is that we're suffering under the yoke of those to whom Truth means nothing -- the practitioners of a dark faith. They don't care if a statement is correct, only whether it's politically correct. They hate the Truth when it contradicts their agenda, and they'll stop at nothing to still the tongues of those who would dare voice it. Racists? These miscreants are infinitely worse. They are Truthists.
And what is the Truth about racial differences? For one thing, is it logical and rational to claim that, except for appearance and a few diseases and conditions of the body, every group is the same in every way?

This is the left's implication, and it's absurd. It seems especially odd when you consider that most of these inquisitors are secularists who subscribe to the theory of evolution. Yet, despite their belief that different groups "evolved" in completely different parts of the world, operating in different environments and subject to different stresses, they would have us believe that all groups are identical in terms of the multitude of man's talents and in every single measure of mental capacity. Why, miracle of miracles, all these two-legged cosmic accidents, the product of a billions-of-years journey from the primordial soup to primacy among creatures, whose evolution was influenced by perhaps millions of factors, wound up being precisely the same. It's really the best argument for God I've ever heard, as such a statistical impossibility could only exist if it was ordained by the one with whom all things are possible.


Theodore Dalrymple has noted that the chief purpose of political correctness is public humiliation in the interests of social control - by forcing otherwise decent people to lie - and, I would add, to watch others be destroyed only for saying what everyone knows or suspects is true.

Hasn’t there always been racism? Yes, but a non-materialist system, whether Western or Eastern, can reject racism without forcing people to lie. In the Western monotheistic systems, every gift comes from God and therefore all humans are equal in God’s eyes. The idea that inherent value arises from something other than God’s favour is heresy. In an Eastern system, no one escapes karma (the accumulated effects of one’s choices), and thinking oneself superior is a state of illusion, not progress toward reality. Materialism is actually the only intellectually well developed system I know of in which differences in ability actually become differences in value.

It will be interesting to see how the Darwin industry spins the Watson affair next year, given their big plans for the bicentenary of Darwin’s birth. Me, I am going to see the Expelled movie, which opens. I gather, on Darwin’s birthday.

Note on race and intelligence: I think Watson has a much poorer case than Summers. True, IQ is mostly inherited. But the difference IQ makes becomes important mainly at the margins. A child who is severely developmentally delayed may need assisted living all his life, and a child who is very bright may become the next world chess champion. But what about the billions of us somewhere in the middle? If anyone thinks that the difference between one teacher and another, one dentist and another, one auto mechanic and another, is likely to turn on a few IQ points, that person is not a very skilled observer of the marketplace. Second, it is a great error to assume that because a region (cf Africa) is underdeveloped, therefore its people are dumb. They used to say that about Ireland, today’s “Celtic Tiger.” Now they say it about Africa, which may likewise be entirely transformed a century from now. The causes of underdevelopment must be sought in the specifics of history, not generalizations based on grand concepts like intelligence. An African friend complained to me years ago that one of his country’s problems was that, in general, men had little regard for technical disciplines like engineering, preferring to study philosophy. He knew many doctors of philosophy but no one who could fix his air conditioner. If my friend is correct, the problem doesn’t turn on intelligence at all, but on what his society values. I should think it much harder to get a doctorate in philosophy than a certificate in air conditioner repair.

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Saturday, October 20, 2007

DNA pioneer James Watson embroiled in PC racism uproar: Updates

Watson is currently suspended from chancelor duties.

Watson’s own institute has itself been linked to historical Darwinian racism, even though it dutifully denounced him.

Also, here’s a spoof interview from The Brites on the reaction of a paragon of political correctness, trying to hold together Darwinism and egalitarianism. (Of COURSE it doesn’t work. As I point out here, you can’t have both Darwinism and egalitarianism. The only possible result is PC idiocy. )

More seriously, a friend offers some brief extracts from Watson’s book DNA:
"Our discovery had put an end to a debate as old as the human species: Does life have some magical, mystical essence, or is it, like any chemical reaction carried out in a science class, the product of normal physical and chemical processes? Is there something divine at the heart of a cell that brings it to life? The double helix answered that question with a definitive No" (xii).

No?
"Only with the discovery of the double helix and the ensuing genetic revolution have we had grounds for thinking that the powers held traditionally to be the exclusive property of the gods might one day be ours. Life, we now know, is nothing but a vast array of coordinated chemical reactions. The 'secret' to that coordination is the breathtakingly complex set of instructions inscribed, again chemically, in our DNA" (396).

One of the most innovative scientists I know has strictly cautioned me against any kind of “nothing buttery” as observed above.
Watson is nonetheless generous, after his fashion:
I do not dispute the right of individuals to look to religion for a private moral compass, but I do object to the assumption of too many religious people that atheists live in a moral vacuum. Those of us who feel no need for a moral code written down in an ancient tome have, in my opinion, recourse to an innate moral intuition long ago shaped by natural selection promoting social cohesion in groups of our ancestors.

But, unbelievers that we are, Montreal neuroscientist Mario Beauregard and I doubt that any such “innate moral intuition” can be created by the magic of natural selection. The moral intuition of relatedness come rather from the relationship between our limited minds and the mind that created the universe in which we live

Oh, well, it is obvious that Watson is not a corner stool at our local coffee klatsch. He doesn’t even like Gattaca, whose limitations I concede myself - but he dislikes it for entirely different* reasons:
In addition to laying out a misleadingly dismal vision of our future within the film itself, the creators of Gattaca concocted a promotional tag line aimed at the deepest prejudices against genetic knowledge: "There is no gene for the human spirit." It remains a dangerous blind spot in our society that so many wish this were so. If the truth revealed by DNA could be accepted without fear, we should not despair for those who follow us. [p 405]


Well, it’s just true. There is NO gene for the human spirit. That doesn’t mean that science could never discover anything about the human spirit. It means that looking for a God gene (God spot, God module) that creates it is a waste of time.

*I didn’t believe that a guy could fake out the fitness tests with a diseased heart. Didn’t sound right.

Also: Key atheist argument a shell game?

Another novelist overcomes stroke, produce new bok

The US government did NOT falsify accepted age of Grand Canyon

Neanderthal guy was one of us (but still won’t use underarm deodorant)

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